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Sharon Hom's avatar

Elle, It’s encouraging you are studying China and its complex long history, but I would caution on romanticized invocation of China’s history. Also, Confucianism is not the “dominant” philosophy/religion today in the PRC (no matter what a Google search states) if that’s what you meant by “China.” Under the leadership of the CPC (as stated in the State and Party Constitutions, reinforced in laws, and in “education” study sessions), the guiding ideology today is Marxist-Leninist-Mao Zedong thought and now add on Xi Jinping Thought. In fact, any criticisms are censored and runs risk of prosecution under the comprehensive state, national and cybersecurity laws. There are excellent resources on XJP Thought, including summaries that present its complexity by the MERICS, China research group. You might also be interested in the Weekly Brief published at: https://hrichina.substack.com

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Although I'm sure this has some legend in it, as an ideal, Mozi's philosophy is great and worth considering.

But I'd like to bring up another aspect of this story, as you've laid it out: People taking action to better themselves and their communities at the local level.

Many of Mozi's ideas are humanistic ideas that can be found in Western society. You saw them — to varying degrees — in antiquity and then really flowering during the Renaissance and Enlightenment before coming into their own in the 19th century.

The missing piece, that was present in earlier eras of the US, was local action to solve local problems and support regional goals. Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville shows 19th-century America as the home of problem solvers pooling resources and joining groups to address their own problems. They built schools. They formed militias. They created culture in vacuums on the frontier.

Much like in Mozi's era, there was this "top" layer of government that had to be weathered and bettered. But it often did a crappy job of addressing real problems when it wasn't actively causing wars and harming people. So locals banded together to do what the government couldn't or wouldn't.

The really interesting question is: Why did these local problem-solving groups die off in the US? Why has civil society withered on the vine?

Part of it is a change in mindset. Earlier eras observed that the government was useless or underresourced. If something was going to be bettered, they had to do it themselves.

We don't have that mindset. We think that only the government can address problems, and at best we can nudge it in the right direction or vote for someone better to run the bureaucracy.

I'm not sure how you bring back the earlier system. In a sense, I think our learned helplessness is the result of government doing things pretty well and scaling up. But when it fails, we're stuck with our learned helplessness mindset.

I wonder if we can get back to taking action without a massive failure at the government level that would leave a clear void that would need to be filled and summon people from complacency.

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