These are all great ideas! How are we gonna make them happen? If people are interested in a toy-DAO to exercise what it would be like to be a part of one, I could probably make a simple one with 100 votes per person to allocate as they wish. We can come up with fun things to vote on, and when your 100 votes are gone you are done. Something like that... What could we form a DAO around?
These ideas are fine but first require public control of governance which means public control of the creation of money, money is the governing factor. The money system is the leverage point in our economic system. Now all money is issued as interest-bearing debt, a form of slavery, by the private commercial banks who control public policy. The legislation to do it has already been written and was introduced to Congress by Kucinich in 2011. Money is a matter of the law, which we should be able to change to create a system that funds public needs, not private profits.
Many of these ideas have been implemented in other countries. They haven't always resulted in obvious improvement. It takes a whole population to change its attitudes over generations on multiple fronts to create holistic, positive change:
But note that these can also have detrimental effects if not coupled with an effective land planning system: For example, in the UK landfill tax has reduced the availability of brownfield sites for development and put pressure on green belt and environmentally sensitive areas for house building: https://www.gov.uk/government/calls-for-evidence/landfill-tax-grant-scheme-call-for-evidence
Thank you, Elle. I always feel I'm being all doom and gloom when either commenting on (free) or restacking (paid) your posts, but I'm generally aiming to bring real-world info or experience to the utopian party! I do enjoy reading your explorative 'what ifs' and you're a much needed bright ray of light to kindle optimism about our future.
Oh I don’t feel that way at all! Your expertise often extends in places mine don’t, it really helps me further research these ideas! Though I do appreciate the kind words ☺️
Ahhh I love these so much! It feels amazing to see is exercise our imagination like this. Gives me so much hope — and reconfirms what I've believed for a while now: we really do have everything we need, right here btwn our bodies and brains. We just need the time and space to figure things out.
What a beautiful, internal garden, light-source and natural air-condition !! Created by AI or some mind that cooperates with Nature to make life more comfy and relaxing ?? !!! ...
Voting is useless and the worst deceptive manipulation in modern times.
Everybody is busy-body with his own daily affairs and very, very rarely has the necessary in-depth-knowledge of the issue at stake. Candidates on the ballot are mainly sociopathic narcissists who chose the political arena to make their personal wet-dreams come true on other people's shoulders. They ALL develop into puppets of the gang that knows human psychology best. Guess who ???🤔🤔🤔
Humanity survived and thrived for millennia in small, independent, decentralized, fully autonomous and self-responsible groups led by respectable elders (and sometimes youngsters) who have shown their personal integrity and courage to all members during their lifetime. From simple FACTS, not personal, individual preferences about any crucial matter for survival to the group, it was clear to everybody who had the capabilities to lead, no voting needed. This, unfortunately works in groups below the Dunbar's # only. Mass-societies have grown too complex to be understood and guided by humans full of biases and preys to heavy corruption. Entirely ignorant voter's personal preferences and choices for leaders are a complete failure for the future of the entire community. AGI will not solve the issue because even AGI will have been "educated" (and will most probably be owned") by those miserable creatures mentioned above.
Current government overreach as well as the emerging globalists corporations, IMF, UN or WHO, NATO, etc. with widely negative repercussions on a global scale for the general populace MUST be stopped ASAP.
All forms of government MUST be restricted to TWO specific areas only:
- Defense against foreign criminals by military and against domestic ones by a fair and capable Justice
System as well as
- Planning, execution and maintenance of a logistics-system (sea- airports, roads,
water/sewage/electricity-grid) on the area of sovereignty incl. feed-back to neighbors at common
crossing points. These are all enterprises that need high expertise, can therefore NOT be elected by
votes and need minimal staffing only.
Currency issues, education, health, economics, etc., etc. will all self-regulate and central government MUST be kept out.
Love that you included my digital holiday idea! For #2 Andrew Yang proposed something similar, said public deserved detailed power points and real data on presidential candidate plans.
And for #3, in addition to Congress, make the Supreme Court substantially larger so that we can get more done and have it be less politicized and each justice won’t have to work until they fall over dead.
absolutely love your digital holiday idea! I'm hosting a tech sabbath next Friday sundown to Saturday sundown for my community
no tech (phones, laptops, watches). we'll memorize / print directions, wait at bus stops and stare up at the sky, get out into nature with no way to track our steps, and report back on how we felt for 24 hours :)
For the voter budget thing, I'd personally prefer quadratic voting because a highly ideological section of the population can pass fairly radical laws.
I feel like we are all very aware of the problem of violence though? We are confronted with it everyday. School shootings always top the news, so do wars and genocides. It's not that we aren't aware of the problem, it's that people don't know what solutions there could be!
These are all great ideas! How are we gonna make them happen? If people are interested in a toy-DAO to exercise what it would be like to be a part of one, I could probably make a simple one with 100 votes per person to allocate as they wish. We can come up with fun things to vote on, and when your 100 votes are gone you are done. Something like that... What could we form a DAO around?
These ideas are fine but first require public control of governance which means public control of the creation of money, money is the governing factor. The money system is the leverage point in our economic system. Now all money is issued as interest-bearing debt, a form of slavery, by the private commercial banks who control public policy. The legislation to do it has already been written and was introduced to Congress by Kucinich in 2011. Money is a matter of the law, which we should be able to change to create a system that funds public needs, not private profits.
Many of these ideas have been implemented in other countries. They haven't always resulted in obvious improvement. It takes a whole population to change its attitudes over generations on multiple fronts to create holistic, positive change:
Idea 1: Australia has preferential voting. The country doesn't stand out for its progressive politics. They are still heavily partisan: https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/what-does-preferential-voting-mean/
Idea 3: The UK has the largest secondary legislative body outside of China. But they want to *reduce* the number of such representatives because of numerous issues: https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/campaigns/elected-house-of-lords/
Idea 6:
Landfill taxes are the most common economic instrument used across the EU to improve municipal waste management, with 22 Member States implementing these. https://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/economic-instruments-and-separate-collection
But note that these can also have detrimental effects if not coupled with an effective land planning system: For example, in the UK landfill tax has reduced the availability of brownfield sites for development and put pressure on green belt and environmentally sensitive areas for house building: https://www.gov.uk/government/calls-for-evidence/landfill-tax-grant-scheme-call-for-evidence
These are very interesting models. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, Elle. I always feel I'm being all doom and gloom when either commenting on (free) or restacking (paid) your posts, but I'm generally aiming to bring real-world info or experience to the utopian party! I do enjoy reading your explorative 'what ifs' and you're a much needed bright ray of light to kindle optimism about our future.
Oh I don’t feel that way at all! Your expertise often extends in places mine don’t, it really helps me further research these ideas! Though I do appreciate the kind words ☺️
Ahhh I love these so much! It feels amazing to see is exercise our imagination like this. Gives me so much hope — and reconfirms what I've believed for a while now: we really do have everything we need, right here btwn our bodies and brains. We just need the time and space to figure things out.
What a beautiful, internal garden, light-source and natural air-condition !! Created by AI or some mind that cooperates with Nature to make life more comfy and relaxing ?? !!! ...
Voting is useless and the worst deceptive manipulation in modern times.
Everybody is busy-body with his own daily affairs and very, very rarely has the necessary in-depth-knowledge of the issue at stake. Candidates on the ballot are mainly sociopathic narcissists who chose the political arena to make their personal wet-dreams come true on other people's shoulders. They ALL develop into puppets of the gang that knows human psychology best. Guess who ???🤔🤔🤔
Humanity survived and thrived for millennia in small, independent, decentralized, fully autonomous and self-responsible groups led by respectable elders (and sometimes youngsters) who have shown their personal integrity and courage to all members during their lifetime. From simple FACTS, not personal, individual preferences about any crucial matter for survival to the group, it was clear to everybody who had the capabilities to lead, no voting needed. This, unfortunately works in groups below the Dunbar's # only. Mass-societies have grown too complex to be understood and guided by humans full of biases and preys to heavy corruption. Entirely ignorant voter's personal preferences and choices for leaders are a complete failure for the future of the entire community. AGI will not solve the issue because even AGI will have been "educated" (and will most probably be owned") by those miserable creatures mentioned above.
Current government overreach as well as the emerging globalists corporations, IMF, UN or WHO, NATO, etc. with widely negative repercussions on a global scale for the general populace MUST be stopped ASAP.
All forms of government MUST be restricted to TWO specific areas only:
- Defense against foreign criminals by military and against domestic ones by a fair and capable Justice
System as well as
- Planning, execution and maintenance of a logistics-system (sea- airports, roads,
water/sewage/electricity-grid) on the area of sovereignty incl. feed-back to neighbors at common
crossing points. These are all enterprises that need high expertise, can therefore NOT be elected by
votes and need minimal staffing only.
Currency issues, education, health, economics, etc., etc. will all self-regulate and central government MUST be kept out.
Call it anarchy of the well educated.
Only time will show.
Nailed it.
Love that you included my digital holiday idea! For #2 Andrew Yang proposed something similar, said public deserved detailed power points and real data on presidential candidate plans.
And for #3, in addition to Congress, make the Supreme Court substantially larger so that we can get more done and have it be less politicized and each justice won’t have to work until they fall over dead.
absolutely love your digital holiday idea! I'm hosting a tech sabbath next Friday sundown to Saturday sundown for my community
no tech (phones, laptops, watches). we'll memorize / print directions, wait at bus stops and stare up at the sky, get out into nature with no way to track our steps, and report back on how we felt for 24 hours :)
Though I worry my idea is a “luxury belief.” But I want everyone to have the luxury.
Nothing wrong with wanting a little luxury! I think if we keep our dreams small, well never see the changes we need.
For the voter budget thing, I'd personally prefer quadratic voting because a highly ideological section of the population can pass fairly radical laws.
Do you have a proposal for how we would solve the problem of violence?
I feel like we are all very aware of the problem of violence though? We are confronted with it everyday. School shootings always top the news, so do wars and genocides. It's not that we aren't aware of the problem, it's that people don't know what solutions there could be!